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writething (Cybrary WebMaster): . .
. . Tue, Apr 16, 6:57PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Hi, just a note that Dr. Feig may
have some initial problems
hooking up here. A little background:
Dr. Konnilyn Feig
Topic: Researching and Teaching the Holocaust
***Dr. Konnilyn Feig
After more than 20 years of extensive research, interviewing survivors, and
visiting concentratrion camp sites, Dr. Konnilyn Feig published one of the best
documentaries of the Holocaust, HITLER'S DEATH CAMPS (Holmes & Meir, 1979). Since
her work on the concentration camps, she has served as International Co-Chair of
ARWAC - Aid to Refusnik Women and Children - a successful effort to get Prisoners
of Conscience out of Old USSR. She is now a specialist in Eastern Europe,
especially former Yugoslavia, and Romania and has spent parts of most of the past 10 years in Russia, the Chech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria, Croatia, etc. She spent much time this past summer in Romania, Croatia, Bosnia. She is currently directing a volunteer project in Romania on Breast Cancer Assistance.
Dr. Feig still teaches the only Holocaust class in the 110 California Community Colleges and will have a WEB page on that soon. She recently led two sessions on the Holocaust for the National Conference on Humanities of the Community Colleges.
Dr. Konnilyn Feig is Dean of Business and Social Sciences and Professor of
History and Political Science at Foothill College, Los Altos Hills, Ca.
Formerly, she was Senior VP of San Francisco State University amd Dean of Arts
and Sciences at University of Southern Maine.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:00PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I
am here! But the system is responding slowly tonight so we will have to be
patience.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:00PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
I would like us to begin and if you don't mind, I would like to make a
brief statement?
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:01PM
PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr Feig - I do not know whether this is the right forum - or
whther a reply could come to me by private e-mail.
The UK Government is rejecting applications for asylum from Russian Jews on the
grounds that there is no OFFICIAL antisemitism in Russia today, and they are free
to practice their religion.
Is there any legal evidence available which could be used by an applicant in a
court - appealing against deportation orders based on this view of the UK Home
Office?
Dixie Rose
(): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I must leave - but before I
do, I would like to say the names again: Pini and Alta Rotstein Fink and their
two young sons, Jude and David; Yeheskal Rotstein; Rosa Rotstein and her family;
all from Kalwarija, Lithuania; shot by the Nazis November 1941. Menachem
Amsterdamski, died at Dachau, Comando Kaufering, January 23, 1945. Chaim
Rotstein, killed by the Russians in 1941 - but a victim of the Nazis. May they
rest in peace and never be forgotten.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let's all thank Cybrary for taking the
time to do this program. And thank you all for inviting me and joining us. A
disclaimer: there is no way to be accurately terse and clear about such a
complex and painful human subject as the Holo. with all its subleties of meaning.
Thus noting I say will be "accurate. I am here to honor the strugglers who died
and the strugglers who lived from Hitler's Final and Partial Solutions. And to
reflect on the continuity of human abuse and indifference. I do this tonite in a
mode of some reverence and a continuing quest for the questions and answers.
Let's talk together.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:09PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
David your question is appropriate. I spent years going inot the
Soviet Union to try to help get the Prisoners of Conscience out. I realized one
day that if I needed to see smoke coming from chimnies and smell fresh graves to
know that abuse was alive and well, then I was doomed. Hence the USSR. As you
may know, I and 5 others won a US Supremem Court case on the isuue to which you
speak. AS is alive and well in Russia and the Ukraine. Other "isms" are alive
and well in other countries. But Congress has a set of old laws under which it
would appear that only acute and horrendous and unsubtle oppression is
recognized. I think we need to keep talking with our congresspersons.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:13PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let's discuss Hitler for a moment. Why do you think Hitler had such an impact on
a civilized modern nation such as Germany?
GYNMan (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
7:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - As a Holocaust researcher I am hoping you
can advise me
on finding the proper resources. I am researching the medical experiments
at Auschwitz. Not the commonly known ones but more focused on the
experiments that were developed by the physicians, rather than the
Reich. In particular, I am seeking to prove and follow up on the
relationship between Eduard Wirths (Auschwitz chief medical officer)
and his brother Helmut. Any Advice?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Hitler was the tip of the iceberg. Without
the active, vigorous indifference of the people of the allied and neutral
nations, the Final Solution would not have vented its full fury. Until Bosnia, I
believed that if CNN had been in the countries with the concentration camps, that
there would have been no Solution and no Genocide. In other words, that making
the horrors visible would stop them. I now know that is not true. What, I
wonder, does stop a Holocaust? What I wonder catalyzes humans to want to assist
in stopping abuse and death?
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
7:19PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Do you think that he was expressing fears/ concerns
appealing to many of the German people who eventually became affiliated with the
Nazi party?
David
Lewin (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The main
reason Hitler gained so much support in the 1930s was the economic crisis of the
1920s.
Many people felt aggrieved by the Weimar republic and its concessions in the
Versailles settlement.
They were also angry at the economic situation and the Jews were an easy
scapegoat which Hitler preyed on.
Jutka (survivor): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:21PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The conditions, political, economical,
and societal, were as such that the people of Germany were fertile soil for any
damagogue who offered, seemingly easy, achievable solutions. Add to this
anti-semitism that was part of their culture (Luther) to begin with, and then you
have a "winning combination" to seduce a nation. But of course Hitler had some
forrunners. Both in Europe and Anerica. Just think of the Eugenics movement in
the USA.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:21PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
Gynman: I am interested in the same issue. It is bigger, I am afraid,
than Nazi Germany. I just returned from Croatia and Romania where I met with the
Ministers of Health of those countries to try to do something about breast cancer
there. The men I met with were doctors in the Old Regimes - and I need say no
more. I know these men. So - for research, I am sure you have read Lifton, etc.
Give your EMail address to Joey Korn or the CyLibrary and I will try to send you
a list. But please share your sources with me because I am searching in my
mind.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:22PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On Hitler, OKK - but many countries have grievances. I could name dozens.
And they do not produce a Holocaust. So I still wonder.
K2A
(): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I'm just joinging the
conversation, and I noticed the question as to why Hitler gained so much power
and had so much impact on a society such as Germany. I feel that the people felt
distressed. They wanted someone to help them with their problems. Hitler gave
them something to blame their problems on. In affect, they no longer worried
about what was wrong, but punishing the people who "caused" the problems. In
such a desperate time people were not able to realize how foolishly they were
acting.
ANadine (ANadine): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
"What, I wonder, does stop a Holocaust? What
I wonder catalyzes humans to
want to assist in stopping abuse and death?" If we could figure this out... Yet
CNN exists, but we have Bosnia, we have Rwanda, we have poverty within the States
that keeps minority groups from getting adequate nutrition and immunizations --
what can stop it?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:26PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I rather much observe that we as humans are not getting better and better every
decade as we used to believe. Horrible abuse occurs periodically. The
difference really amounts to finding ways to address the vigorous, active,
indifference that we human beings seem to exhibit across the earth. If we had
said, no way back in the late 30s when we had information or even in 40 or 41 or
44 when the 600,000 Hungarian Jews went to their deaths, we would have saved many
many lives. I happen to believe that saving 10 lives or 100 or 600,000 ought to
occupy our minds and energy.
stickleback (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 7:28PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Do you hold any opinion of Goldhagen's book?
Please excuse me if this has been discussed already. I just joined.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr.Feig:
The title for this particular session was concerning the teaching of the
Holocaust. If I may ask, when do you feel that Holocaust education should begin,
and how should students be educated about it?
Dr.K.Feig (): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I remain truly puzzled why we act
with such little energy for others. I thought 30+ years ago when Elie Wiesel and
I taught the first classes on the Holocaust in American universities that if we
only educated people and wrote about the holocaust that we could energize people
to care. Now I know that we need to do this all the time. But I also see caring,
determined young (and old) people. Perhaps it will never be a matterof "numbers"
of people but the determination of those who see.
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:30PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
The Theory of Stefan Steiner:
a.We all accept Darwin's Theory of Evolution
b. It takes many, many millions of years for change to evolve - for example the
shape of the
shell of the tortoise neck line on the Galapagos, to allow it to lift its head a
little higher,
and so to eat from plants slightly above the ground.
c. How long has Man been on this earth? 50, 000 years (say)
d. in ternms of Evolution that is absolutely nothing.
e. Ergo - how can we expect man today to be any different in his behavious to
waht he was
while still a cave dweller?
f. therefore - why do you expect a change in one or two generations?
GYNMan (): . .
. . Tue, Apr 16, 7:31PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - I am familiar with
Lifton, his book is the source of
my interest in the holocaust. I have found valuable data by exploring
Lifton's sources. My struggle is that I have exhausted these and
although I can sense the information I seek, I don't know how
to get it. Example: Lifton refers to Wirths' apologia; how can I
find it?
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:32PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
I don't mean to take anything away from Goldhagen. Several of us have
written and said the very same thing for years. It is nothing new. So what does
the response mean? It is just like Schindler's List. Why the response? It
tells me that we need to do this and write this and say this over and over over
over again. For that reason, I am very glad to have Goldhagen's book - and to
have Irving's book stopped (even though I don't believe in censorship).
bear123 (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:32PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr.K
Justas the technology of terror and destruction has "improved" ovr the centuries
we have also improved communication skills, political philosophy, and
understanding which could, if we had the faith in it that we had in violence,
help us to stop the madness before it becomes genocide.
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:34PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Or the technology could better serve purposes not unlike what went on during the
Holocaust--it was highly systematic, and technological.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:35PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I agree with you Dr. Feig; it is the
indifference we have to address and change. How do we get people to care about
other people? It's a big question.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:36PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
1-Medicine. Yes, I can help. But give your
EMail to Cyber Library and I will respond.
On teaching: Why so few courses on the Holocaust? It is difficult to teach.
But I have taught it at least 120 times. It does not seem to be a priority.
People are afraid to look at dying and death. What I try to show others is that
if one can just get through the death and dying, on the other side one sees the
enormous capacity for life and living of ordinary human beings. The survivors
know they were ordinary. Their lives tell us something about the possibilities
of humans. But we miss our own strengths when we refuse to venture out and
look.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:39PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let us think of a garden for a moment. The growth of plants and seeds all
depends on the soil p
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
7:39PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
How about the aspect of being imbued with a certain
ideology of supriority of inferiority ofa particular group on the basis of
supposed racial differences. Which leads to a belif that certain groups are
beyond the pale. Are not really human beings. And if that is all one is allowed
to hear one comes to believe it. How many Americans ever protested the treatment
of the American Native People? And they weren't even living under a
dictatorship?
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:40PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I regret the repeated message - we keep
losing contact and having to re-load.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:41PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
(Sorrry my modem went off line) Anyway,
it all depends on the soil. We know that Christian Theological Antisemitism for
centuries throughout Europe from Germany to Austria to Croatia to Hungary to
Romania prepared the soil. Centuries of deep AS from the churches. It is clear
to me, a Gentile, that without that AS, Hitler and Mussolin, and Pavelic, and
Vichy, and others would not have been able to energize the people. After all, a
few SS men and a few guards in all these countries could not have killed the Jews
and Gypsies.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:42PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
I was very curious to learn your views on Holocaust education, beacause
I am a high school student, and the school district in which I attend has
implimented Holocaust studies into the Jr.High lesson plans, and many parent's
dissaggreed with the methods that were used to teach the children. When I took
the class, I found it to be very informative and educational. The teacher was
not hiding anything and showed the class everything that happened including
footage from a camp.
Cschmidt (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:42PM
PDT (-0700 GMT)
What kind of strengths, Dr. Feig, do you think we can learn
from survivors?<
David
Lewin (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:43PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
That's true.
Many of Hitler's antisemitic ideas came from his teachers and from "The protocols
of the elders of Zion". They were not his original ideas.
WD (): . . .
. Tue, Apr 16, 7:44PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On education and the Holocaust - this
brings up some troubling issues with me.
My father was a German soldier (a Nazi). In school, my brother's class was just
learning about the horros of the Holocaust and of the war. What they were taught
was that since Germans were Nazis, all Germans are bad. As a consequence of this
'reasoning' another boy kicked my brother, calling him a Nazi. My brother died as a consequence. This was in California in 1969. My brother was 10 years old. The other boy was Mexican and also 10 years old.
Jutka (survivor):
. . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:45PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I think we have to look very
closely at the events that gradually led to the Holocaust. For example when I
read the dispatches of the World Jewish Congress where they express deep concern
how far-right-wing parties are becoming part of the mainstream political scene in
Europe and elsewhere. And if they, a rather conservative body are concerned than
I am afraid. This is the kind of graduality I am talking about. We have to
recognize the signs early when we can still do something about it.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:46PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
High school student - good for you. The education should start in the jr and
high schools - but we need to insist or at least to ask. I visited "visited" the
refugee camps in Croatia in August - and talked with some of the thousands of
muslim women who had been genocidally raped. It reminded me of the women from
the camps who had been victims of the medical experiments. Somehow, in my mind,
all this horror is beginning to run together a bit. I tell students to just go
and help. I just went and helped. And so much help is needed. I use my money.
No one pays me. My students just go. We have to act. I sent my students into
Russian whenever the KGB turned down my visas. They did better than I did.
Maybe Anne Frank was right: "The youth will save the world"
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:48PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
It seems that Dr. Feig may still be
having modem problems. I'm sure she'll return soon. Powerful discussion!
AnGuS.Y (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:48PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Anyone have Ideas For who is responsable,like all the ss
or was it antone who Knew.
RUFUS1 (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
7:49PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Fieg..my motherin law was in the camps but she
doesn't
talk about it.How can one draw it out so the grand kids can
hear it first hand ?
WD (): . . .
. Tue, Apr 16, 7:50PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
On education and the Holocaust - this
brings up some troubling issues with me.
My father was a German soldier (a Nazi). In school, my brother's class was just
learning about the horros of the Holocaust and of the war. What they were taught
was that since Germans were Nazis, all Germans are bad. As a consequence of this
'reasoning' another boy kicked my brother, calling him a Nazi. My brother died as
a consequence. This was in California in 1969. My brother was 10 years old. The
other boy was Mexican and also 10 years old.
Dr.K.Feig (): . .
. . Tue, Apr 16, 7:51PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I would, however, like to talk for a
moment about human decency. The Holocaust could not have happened in the absence
of criminal indifference. Decency is not heroism, it is the minimum standard
necessary to be able to live with oneself, I think. In 1939, decency, we have
larned, is not normal and not easy. The failure to know is indecent. No wanting
to know alwaysmeans knowing enought o know that one doesn't want to know more. I
think the Holo teaches us that we cannot afford the luxury of selective knowing.
Of the 10 commandments which form the ethical foundation of the Judeo-Christian
tradition, 8 are prohibitive. Only 2 tells what to do. The rest tell us what
not to do. They fail as a prescription for decency. We cannot be decent, I
think, only by refraingin from certain acts: by not killing, not lying, etc. So
it would appear that we need a new definition.
kmcvay (Vancouver Island): .
. . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:52PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
'Evening, everyone... sorry to be
late....
WD (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:53PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
When
she returns, the question I have for Dr. Feig is how has education of the
Holocaust changed in the years following the 50's (if there was any in grade
schools back then, I don't know). And my question to K2A is what have you learned
about yourself in general through the lessons of the past?
Jutka (survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:54PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
There are so
many differen aspects to this discussion. For example the question of minority
rights in any given country ot erritory. Historically speakinf it is a young
phenominan. 100-120 years old at best. It took deep roots in Denamark for
example but not in Germany and Hungary to mention only two, in spite of the
Enlightment and Emancipation.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 7:54PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD, I also hear, especially from
some survivors, that all Germans were bad. But I know better. My mother was a
German. Hatred is hatred.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:55PM
PDT (-0700 GMT)
So many of my friends are survivors of the camps. So many
of my friends are survivors of the Gulags. And now, so many of my friends are
survivors of genocidal raped and attemped annihilation in Bosnia. They have, of
course, enriched my life. But they have also taught me of the potential of
ordinary humans to be extraordinary and to struggle for life and living and to
honor life and living. If anything, I am eternally grateful.
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 7:56PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Rufus - you have pointed out a real dilema.
The question is - whose needs are greater? Those of the children whom you want to
hear the story - or the grandmother who suppresses the pain.
You must be aware that even today, 50 years on, many of the survivers break down
and suffer mental collapses as a result of the memories overwhelming them.
Without knowing the individual I would not presume to attempt to give you an
answer.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 7:59PM PDT (-0700
GMT)
Many of my students are German. I also know 2 of the children of
rather important Nazis. As Elie Wiesel has said sowell, "Only the people who did
it or who did not stop it are guilty." No children are guilty. No Germans
today. No Hungarians, etc. We must not carry that blame over. I think what
happened to our young German friend's brother is appalling. And so unnecessary
and so stupid. We have enough trouble judging and getting justice for those
responsible - and then to blame children. My G-d.
GYNMan (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
7:59PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig - Thanks for the opportunity to speak with
you. My thanks
to the Cybrary for a successful event. I'll leave my address with
Joey Korn as you suggested. Signing off...
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 8:01PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr Feig, I think that you must add to the
equation that the German children are blaming themselves - it is not all coming
from us.
I'm so
sorry for my messages to be doubled and tripled, I do not know why this is
happening. My apologies.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16,
8:02PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I will stay for a few moments after if they let us.
But first I want to thank you all for inviting me. and then I want to say what
I have been thinking about. I thik wemust not allow a sense of the ordinary to
develop about human misery and destruction, normust we permit any dignity to our
new knowledge that anything and everything is possible. We must as Emily
Dickinson said, hold deep within ourselves a sense of scandal so overwhelming
that it affects every significant aspect of our lives. We must keep our soul
terribly surprised. Thank you all.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:02PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I'll look forward to hearing from you
GYNMan.
Joey Korn (A
Cybrary Moderator): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD, if
you go into where Netscape shows the location of the site, you'll see your
message. You'll have to scroll way over to the right. Sometimes it stays there
and repeats every time you refresh. Just delete it.
RUFUS1 ():
. . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:04PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
David Lewin..I would like to try
to talk her into giving
testimony at the Montreal Holo Museum.I think it's important
for the next generation to know what happened as first hand
as possible.
kmcvay (Vancouver Island):
. . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:05PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I recently heard Dr. Racelle
Weiman speak on the topic of "Holocaust Un-Education." It was a fascinating
experience. She noted that when we decide to teach the Holocaust, we slap it into
"history." History = something finished. Alas, the Holocaust is NOT finished;
witness the story about WD's brother. It is real, and it is
a current event - witness the Survivors' pain. We need to rethink
our priorities here, and view the event quite differently if
it is to serve any purpose.
David Lewin (): . . . . Tue,
Apr 16, 8:05PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
It is 4 am in London. I did not think we
would stay the course.
It is time for Shacharit - and I would like to thank the organisers for a first
class effort - and success!
Thank you everyone - it was fascinating and enlightening.
Jutka
(survivor): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:06PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for all
involved for this opportunity. Shoah commemoration on the Internet. It must be
the first and I am glad I could participate with all of you. Judy Cohen
Joey Korn (A Cybrary
Moderator): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:06PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig, certainly
it is OK to stay on. We are honored.
K2A (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 8:07PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
WD: In answer to your question, I have
known since I was very young that I wanted to go into politics. Studying the
past, including the Holocaust has helped me to realize what I need to do to make
sure that my generation does not let history repeat itself, as other generations
have. For example, I go to school with a Croatian boy. He was sent to the U.S.
to get him away from the war so that he may have a chance at a better future. To
hear him talk of his homeland, it saddend me. As people learned of the
Holocaust, everyoone said "never again." Looking at the current situation in the
former Yougoslavia, isn't this just another form of racial purification? I feel
that it is the duty of my generation to make sure that this does not continue.
We, as a world society, need to realize thatit is up to the youth to stop these
crimes against humanity. That is what I've learned from Holocaust study. And,
if it is any sign of the affect these classes have had on me, it has been two
years since I had a Holocaust class and I still suffer nightmares from films I
saw of the death camps.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:07PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
I
believe I see Ken McVay. And I owe him a thanks. He contacted me to help. And
I was so busy in Bosnia and with the Neo Nazis and with Yugoslavia that I said
no. I didn't want anymore swastikas painted on my car or slit-open rats on my
front seat of my car, or etec. But I thought about it and here I am. If that is
you Ken, thank you, I think.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:08PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
David, Thank you for joining us. I
didn't think you would make it this long.
Farewell Judy. Thanks for joining us.<
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:11PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We all owe a debt to Joey Korn and his
colleagues. This "conference" was much work and if I knew how to stand up and
clap on Net for him, I would do so.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:14PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Let me close with education. My
Holocaust students last quarter agreed to do a Web page on the class and the
Holocaust. We are almost finished with it and I am very proud of them. Look it
up in about 3 weeks at Foothill College. Just type it in a search machine. Then
go to Divisions and then to Business and Social Sciences. We (they) will welcome
your visit. They are outstanding honors students and have some very important
messages
Joey Korn
(A Cybrary Moderator): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Thank you
Dr. Feig for helping us to make this an excellent first attempt at a Yom Hashoah
Chat Conference. We made history, I think. You helped us end our conference
powerfully. We all could have stayed. Some left early. Thanks to you, Mike
Declan Dunn, and to WebChat. May we always remember.
writething (Cybrary WebMaster): . .
. . Tue, Apr 16, 8:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Dr. Feig, could you let us know the
address and we will link
from the Cybrary? I want to thank all for sharing and will
put up this chat in the next week. I've had to stay behind the scenes
to capture it all...amazing...thanks...peace.
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We will be glad to put a link to your
student's pages in the Cybrary. Thanks for everything you've done and still do
in your work.
Dr.K.Feig (): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:17PM PDT
(-0700 GMT)
Goodnight. We will talk later. Thanks.,
Joey Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . .
Tue, Apr 16, 8:17PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
We will be glad to put a link to your
student's pages in the Cybrary. Thanks for everything you've done and still do
in your work.
Joey
Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Good night all.
Joey
Korn (A Cybrary Moderator): . . . . Tue, Apr 16, 8:19PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Good night all.
DR. TEJ (): . . . . Tue, Apr
16, 8:35PM PDT (-0700 GMT)
Sorry I missed the chat. Goodnight all.
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